[aprssig] Re: Ants for Bikes WAS: Broken digis (Ohio to Oklahoma and everywhere inbetween
w2pi at optonline.net
w2pi at optonline.net
Wed Aug 1 20:01:42 EDT 2007
I have had the same experience when bicycle mobile - 1/2 wave works much better than 1/4 wave.
Paul, W2PI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen H. Smith"
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 7:21 pm
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Ants for Bikes WAS: Broken digis (Ohio to Oklahoma and everywhere inbetween
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> William McKeehan wrote:
> > My results with a setup on a motorcycle were less than
> expected with a 1/4
> > wave antenna even with 5 and 50 watt setups.
> >
> > Changing the antenna to a 1/2 wave made a HUGE improvement for me.
> >
>
> Because a 1/4-wave requires a HORIZONTAL metallic surface (i.e.
> groundplane) underneath it to make up for the missing part of a
> half-wave radiator. You can get the metallic mass of the
> bike's body
> to counterpoise the 1/4-wave radiator for purposes of
> establishing
> resonance and getting a low SWR, but the radiation angle is
> mostly up in
> the air; i.e. you're doing a "moonshot" instead of putting out
> your
> power close to the horizon where the digipeaters are.
> Great for
> satellite operation but lousy for terrestrial operation.
> REMEMBER: A
> low SWR doesn't prove you are radiating (or radiating in the
> right
> place). Consider a dummy load.......
>
> A 1/4-wave on a car's roof (i.e. big chunk of HORIZONTAL sheet
> metal)
> is somewhat better with the major radiation occurring at about
> 15-25
> degrees above the horizon.
>
> A 1/2-wave radiator, whether end-fed like a J or center-fed like
> a
> dipole, will radiate almost straight out toward the horizon
> WITHOUT
> additional ground plane mass under it.
>
> The "secret weapon" for serious 2M DX radiation from a bicycle,
> fiberglass body boat or car, or motorcycle is the Hygain Model
> 270 or
> 285. These 8-foot long fiberglass whips, unfortunately no
> longer in
> production, are derived from a VHF marine antennna. They are a
> PAIR of
> 2-meter 5/8-wave radiators stacked and center-fed so they don't
> need a
> ground plane. The base is a 3/8-20 screw stud, like an HF
> antenna or
> CB whip, but is for mechanical support only - it is not an
> electrical
> connection. The attached RG-58 feedline comes out of a
> grommeted hole
> in the side of the mast about 1 inch above the mount stud.
> You mount
> this thing on a bumper mount, split-ball, mirror clamp or
> monster
> mag-mount as you would a 108" CB whip. [ Years ago, I ran
> one of
> these mounted on the back of a Vespa moped, hooked to a Standard
> 826 2M
> hand-held, while I was in college at Sault Ste Marie, MI for
> several
> years with great results! I mounted a classic split-ball mount
> on the
> lid of the cargo box behind the seat to support it.]
>
> They are great for portable fixed antennas also. You tie a
> nylon string
> to the tip of the whip and just hoist it up into a tree, 2nd-
> floor
> balcony, curtain rod or whatever else is handy. Or tie-wrap the
> first
> foot or so of one to a portable PVC pipe or fiberglass mast.
> You don't
> have to worry about radials, ground planes, etc. I've used
> them many
> times for ham club demos of APRS, packet and SSTV, and for field
> day, etc.
>
> Or hoist one up into a tree HORIZONTALLY by tying strings to
> BOTH ends
> to form a 3dBd gain broadside horizontal array for 2M SSB.
>
>
> The 270 was a stiff white fiberglass sleeve for it's entire 8-
> foot
> length. The 285 was a black fiberglass sleeve for the first
> half of
> it's length and a thin flexible stainless steel whip, similar to
> the
> usual 5/8-wave whip for the other half. These antennas are
> well worth
> looking for at swapmeets, if you need to run mobile
> installations on
> vehicles without horizontal sheet metal.
>
>
>
> A much smaller alternative, currently available that works very
> well, is
> the Diamond NR-770 which is a no-ground-plane 2M/70cm dual-
> bander with
> an open (corkscrew) coil at it's center-point. This antenna is
> about
> 38-40 inches tall (i.e. 2M half-wave). Available in both NMO and
> UHF
> base versions in either chrome or matte black, it's perfect for
> screwing
> into a UHF bulkhead ("barrel") connector mounted through an L-
> bracket on
> no-ground-plane vehicles. It's also ideal with all-in-one ammo-
> box
> trackers. Just place a barrel plug through a 5/8th-inch hole
> in the
> top of the case and screw it in. It works VASTLY better than
> simple
> 1/4-wave whips when the box is too small to be an effective
> ground
> plane, with vastly less RFI into the GPS or Tinytrack. [ You
> need a
> surface of at least 19" radius to be an effective ground plane
> on 2M.
> Further, even when properly ground-planed, a quarter-wave will
> NEVER
> have as low an angle of radiation as a half-wave. ]
>
> I have used a 770 taped to a fiberglass pushup mast as a
> temporary
> base-station antenna. Just splice the male UHF connector in
> it's base
> to a run of coax with a barrel plug and hoist it up. No radials
> or
> ground plane needed. Or pull it up into a tree by tying a piece
> of
> nylon string or 20-lb-test mono-filament fish line to it's tip.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
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