[aprssig] Bandwidth IS THE FUTURE OF APRS
Rick Green
rtg at aapsc.com
Thu Oct 12 12:27:25 EDT 2006
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, wa7nwp wrote:
>
>>> I do agree that the above beacon is
>> absolutely wasteful of bandwidth!
>
>
> We have to change the way we look at things.
>
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> YouTube feeds 100 MILLION!!! Videos a day. Those Videos are in Megabytes.
> (You all saw the dramatic 4th episode of Chad Vader - right?)
>
Yes, and it feeds it over fiber, on clean point-to-point links, without
CSMA issues, not to mention hidden-transmitter issues, etc.
Also, YouTube, and other video-on-demand sites, as well as various
IP-streaming audio and video sites, are themselves bandwidth-limited, in
that separate bandwidth is needed for each simultaneous user. Traditional
RF broadcasting is much more appropriate for mass distribution of media.
>
> It's 2006. We're still running 1200 baud (nope - didn't forget the K at the
> end of that -- hard to believe.) We panic if somebody actually adds an
> extra hop to their path. Here we're counting fraking bytes in a status
> packet.
Because on a 1200baud radio channel, those bytes matter.
>
> We have incredible technology just waiting to be put to use. We have dozens
> of vastly underused channels. We probably have Megabytes in the Microwave
> spectrum that's dead dead dead.
>
We DON't have the technology sufficiently developed. My meager
experiments with 9600 baud told me it's extremely difficult to keep a
single link up over a 20-mile path using directional antennas. The
sensitivity of these modems to frequency stability, seleective fading,
etc., tells me we're a long way from practical mobile high-speed packet.
We could adopt the techniques that are being implemented by the digital
cellular carriers for high-speed mobile digital transmission, but many of
those are patent-encumbred, so we have to start from scratch and develop
our own.
> Lets work on moving on - not digging a deeper hole then what we already have.
>
Agreed, but from where we're at, the development needs to happen first
on building a stable high-speed backbone. Unstable mobile stations will
come later.
> Quiet air is wasted air - make packets!
This sounds to me like the same kind of attitude that's got our roads
clogged with inefficient, gas-guzzling SUV's, and our children killed
trying to secure the oil to fuel them.
I plea for appropriate use of the technology at hand, and careful
adoption of newer technologies that are actually better, not just bigger
for the sake of our egos.
--
Rick Green, N8BJX
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
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