UI-View Bashing (was Re: APRS RF DX? (Was RE: [aprssig] APRS in Atlanta - flooding the network))

[Wes Johnston]

As for UI-View setting the PHG for home users (ie advertising your home
qth PHG), that's really not of much use.  Most of the stations we are
interested in seeing PHG stats are digipeaters, so I don't know if a
home user transmitting his PHG is really of any _value_ to us.

It seems to me that someone who is interested in knowing how to select a
specific path can get the plugin.  I don't know if the plugin does this,
but it'd sure be slick if a plugin could "connect the dots" and make a
path suggestion for users.  I suppose it could look at a route that
connected digipeaters with intersecting PHG circles.  And of course, the
PHG circles from digi to digi are 2x the size they are actually plotted
on the screen.

Wes

Robert Bruninga wrote:
> I wasnt "bashing" UIview, I was only making  these points.
> 
> 1) UIview makes no provision to help users  enter
>    their PHG data nor to transmit it
> 2) UIview does not display PHG circles or RF
>     ranges of stations on the map so people can see
>     what range coverage different stations have
> 3) There is an add-on to UIview that does this, but
>     only a small percentage of people use it.
> 4) UIview is the most widely used program on APRS
>     now and thus is what "most people" see
> 
> And the sum of all the above is not "bashing" UIview,
> it is a statement of fact, that this leaves the APRS
> network with out the fundamental RF real-time display
> of RF coverage information that was fundamental to 
> the APRS  concept in the first place.
> 
> Just reminding people of the facts.
> de Wb4APR, Bob
> 
> 
>>>>ve7gdh at rac.ca 10/12/05 12:08 PM >>>
> 
> Bob WB4APR wrote on Oct 12 2005
> 
> 
>>But UIview not only does not natively display PHG range circles
>>on every DIGIi, it does not even provide a means to assure that
>>every station includes its PHG in its beacon.  Thus most UIview
>>users (most of APRS these days) are blind to the topology of the
>>network and how to communicate point-to-point.
> 
> 
> Windows doesn't natively support viewing text files but it comes with a
> "better than nothing" text editor that works. I use a much improved 3rd
> party text editor. OK... so UI-View doesn't "natively" display PHG circles.
> SO WHAT????? There is a rather nice "add-on" that does. Do you think that
> all UI-View users are too stupid to install the add-on program? It really
> irks me when you make blanket statements like that. Do you perhaps think
> that only users that are blind to topology gravitate to UI-View, or perhaps
> ones that are less than intelligent? If you want to bash UI-View (or the
> people using it) why don't you do it over on the UI-View list?
> 
> 73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
> --
> "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
> 
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